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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #191
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 22 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 191
-
- Today's Topics:
- A transmission line loss question
- Callsign allocations
- DJ-580 modifications
- HTX-202 or HTX-404
- More Amateur spectrum going to Industry?
- MOTOROLA MITREK
- Post quake repeater integrity
- PSE HELP regarding my CBA '94
- Ramsey Argument (was: Dana Myers (was: Jeff Gold))
- repeater list
- Repeaters
- Satellite progs on World
- Satellite Tracking Programs (2 msgs)
- selcal13.zip - Hams: Maritime SITOR selcall translator v1.3
-
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-
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- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:16:21 GMT
- From: world!barnaby@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: A transmission line loss question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- CSLE87 (Karl Beckman) writes:
-
- >In article <CLG4pu.5vw@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, tomb@lsid.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
- >wrote:
-
- [Perverse Question re 50 vs 75 ohm coax deleted]
- [Answer to perverse question deleted]
-
- >AND NOW REALITY ENTERS THE PICTURE:
- >To make things even worse for the 75 ohm mismatched cable, the
- >difficulty of adjusting the line length as the copper expands
- >and contracts with ambient temperature is aggravated by the black
- >plastic jacket that raises the temperature during summer sunlight
- >but does not help during winter nights. Therefore the transmitter
- >sees a load phase angle that varies with outdoor ambient
- >temperature as the 75 ohm physical line changes electrical length.
-
- Sheesh Karl,
- As a "computer guy" trying to get reacquainted with radio after 25 years
- in the digital (read virtual) world. I'm feeling a bit queasy back here
- in analog world, having to be concerned with the temperature and color
- of the plastic jacket. Ya know, a compendium of this stuff would be
- just great for explaining those random problems computers experience
- that we can't explain:
- The color of the cable is wrong
- The phase of the moon is not right
- Gamma rays
- etc.
- I never cease to be amazed at the little things.
- Thanks for your post
- Barnaby barnaby@world.std.com AA1IB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 94 02:27:47 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!jtriolo@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Callsign allocations
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >> Don't people read words and books by eye any more? The ARRL log
- >> books and many other sources have all this information listed on
- >> a couple of pages - you know, printing on paper. When you hear
- >> an unfamiliar callsign, you look at the piece of paper. It's
- >> much like looking in a dictionary - a real book, that is, not an
- >> "on-line word source".
- >
- >> Can you tell that I was born before computers became popular?
-
- I'm GLAD that I don't have to invest in a $30.00 callbook (well, $60.00, for
- both North America and DX). They're out of date before they're ever in your
- hands! It's much cheaper for me to telnet to a more updated site than throw
- away an obsolete $30.00 book. The telnet sites are also more detailed!
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Jason D. Triolo -- Colonial Heights, VA | ----------------------
- Amateur Radio: KD4ACG | This space for rent.
- Internet : JTRIOLO@delphi.com | Call today!
- Fidonet : 1:264/219.1<-out of svc. | ----------------------
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Feb 94 18:13:23 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!udel!pacs.sunbelt.net!lynx.unm.edu!dns1.NMSU.Edu!gereiswi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: DJ-580 modifications
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I just purchased an Alinco DJ-580 which has already been modified
- to recieve aircraft down to ca. 120 MHz on VHF and 810-900MHz on UHF. Are
- there any other interesting mods that I might be able to do?
- Also, there is a plug for "stereo out" (VHF left channel, UHF
- right). When I plug this in, using a standard stereo jack, there is an
- occasional squeeling noise. The mono jack does not do that. Suggestions?
- Thanks in advance,
- George
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 94 02:27:07 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!jtriolo@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 or HTX-404
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >I am a scanner enthusiast, and am now interested in getting into amateur
- >radio since listening to the local "hams" on my scanner. I have
- >a couple quick questions, some of which may even be in a FAQ if it exists,
- >but I'll throw them all out here, since I know you are the people to ask.
- >
- >1) To get started, I'm considering a portable that I can get quick. I'm
- >considering the RS HTX-202 and HTX404, but I don't know the difference
- >between the two "bands", which is more active, which is better.
-
- You will get more use out of the HTX-202 2m radio (144-148MHz). In most
- cities, 2 meters is considerably more active than 70cm (440MHz, what the
- HTX-404 covers). Here in the Richmond area, there are about 12 2m repeaters,
- compared to 3 or 4 70cm machines. However, if you live in a larger city,
- you'll find that the two bands are fairly even. That seems to be the case up
- in Ohio.
-
- >2) I often hear about amateur repeaters. I know what a repeater is, and
- how
- >it works, but is my understanding that there are repeaters installed for
- >use by amateur radio operators correct. Who installed them, who can use
- >them, and what does it cost.
-
- Any amateur operator with a Technician Class license or higher can set up a
- repeater. All you need is a tower site, a coordinated repeater pair (Where
- this pair comes from depends on what part of the country you're in), and a
- lot of equipment. Most importantly, it takes lots of money, which is why the
- majority of repeaters are supported by clubs.
-
- >3) Finally, my wife works near Dayton, Ohio during the week, and we live
- >near Toledo. If we both had HT-202 or HT-404 's, could we communicate
- >with each other. Not without repeaters, I'm sure, so I guess this question
- >involves the repeater questions.
-
- A good repeater would be the key to talking between Dayton and Toledo. Just
- one repeater wouldn't do the trick, but there is an extensive netowrk of
- repeaters throughout the state where you could talk between the two cities.
-
- Hope this helps!
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Jason D. Triolo -- Colonial Heights, VA | ----------------------
- Amateur Radio: KD4ACG | This space for rent.
- Internet : JTRIOLO@delphi.com | Call today!
- Fidonet : 1:264/219.1 | ----------------------
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 18:11:52 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!research-01.mskcc.org!psinntp!psinntp!pixar!bruce@ames.arpa
- Subject: More Amateur spectrum going to Industry?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > From: millar@nhqvax.sanders.lockheed.com (Jeffrey R. Millar)
- > Subject: Industry gets more Amateur Spectrum
- > Message-ID: <millar.77.000832F7@nhqvax.sanders.lockheed.com>
- > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 13:12:39 GMT
- >
- > The Commerce Dept, in conjunction with DoD plans to give 200 MHz of spectrum
- > space in the 1200 - 4800 MHz area to industry. This includes 2300-2310 and
- > 2402-2417 MHz. One annoying aspect, the 2402-2417 MHz segment goes to
- > industry in August 1994 without a comment and review period.
- >
- > We need to gear up to fight this. Without a 2400 MHz allocation, repeaters
- > in this band won't work.
-
- This is an NTIA study (see other postings). The comment period
- runs through May. I don't know when the FCC gets involved, but I would
- assume they have to be involved at some point.
-
- We should indeed mobilize to prevent industry use on this band.
- A key part of this would be to present the history of sharing with
- industry on 900 MHz, which has resulted in a near exclusion of Amateur
- traffic from the band.
-
- I would think that the performance of ARRL is going to be critical on this
- one (please everybody hold the pessimism postings - I know, but they are all
- we have). Would anyone from ARRL like to post on this?
-
- Thanks
-
- Bruce Perens
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 1994 16:22:41 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: MOTOROLA MITREK
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Feb21.163445.3119@umr.edu> sidener@crunch.nuc.umr.edu (Scott Sidener) writes:
- >
- > Does anyone have ant experiance, hints, or tips on converting a Motorola Mitrek VHF
- >band radio into a repeater?
-
- Tune up the radio in the conventional manner.
-
- Drill a 1/2" hole in the side of the radio just above the first IF stage
- coil; install a bulkhead BNC female connector. Chop the receive antenna
- lead off the antenna relay and use this connector to bring it out of the
- radio to your duplexer.
-
- Clip out diodes D1, D2, and D403.
-
- Add a control system. All the connections you need are on the control
- connector on the front of the radio.
-
- Voila' - it's a repeater.
-
- - Brian
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:01:17 GMT
- From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!vinpic@ames.arpa
- Subject: Post quake repeater integrity
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Would appreciate hearing from anyone with experience using repeaters in the
- Los Angeles area just after the earthquake. Did they hold up as a reliable
- means of disaster commnuications?
-
-
- --
- Peter Douglas vinpic@netcom.com
- President Vincent Pictures, Los Angeles
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 22:17:20 -0500
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ames.arpa
- Subject: PSE HELP regarding my CBA '94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Thomas Planke <planke@hekla.Systemtechnik.TU-Ilmenau.DE> writes:
-
- >After the change of callsigns in (East) Germany I don't know
- >whether my callsign is noticed with the correct address or not
- >in the international part of the CallBook
- >and whether my old callsign Y32JK is still included.
-
- Thomas -- The Y32JK call is not listed (at least so far as I can find). In
- fact, none of the old GDR calls seem to be listed in this year's edition.
-
- The address for the DL5ATP call is listed as Thomas Planke, Postfach 113,
- D-98693 Ilmenau. Hope this is one is correct!
-
- 73 de Lee/KE3FB in Maryland
- leevankoten@delphi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 94 23:38:21 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ramsey Argument (was: Dana Myers (was: Jeff Gold))
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Text item: Text_1
-
- >Subject : Dana Myers (was: Jeff Gold (was: John Ramsey))
- >In article <2k49diINNmp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM
- >-(Dana Myers ) writes:
- >You're missing the point entirely! Either that or you refuse to see it.
- >The "Jeff Gold" post was intentionally insulting and inflammatory, and
-
- I want to publicly appologize to any innocent party I have offended with
- my humor. Anyone who knows me will tell you I am a perfect gentleman with
- an offbeat sense of humor. The "Jeff Gold" post was 100% black humor...
- I meant to poke fun at Jeff, not insult him... you know, let he who is
- without sin cast the first stone...the pot calling the kettle black...
- sacarsm...
-
- >it completely flies in the face of your earlier statement that Jeff
- >Gold is "less than human".
-
- Please forgive my bad spelling. The statement should have been, "Anyone
- who calls another a liar in public is less than humane." I still believe
- that... most people over 45 do believe that way.
-
- >Attacking Jeff Gold because you don't
- >like his postings *doesn't* belong on rec.radio.amateur.misc
-
- And you believe it is OK to call an individual a liar on rec.radio.amateur.
- misc???? This all started when Jeff posted his two-year old, archived flame
- against Ramsey. I didn't object to his or anybody else's slam of Ramsey
- products. I objected to his emotional outburst and airing his private dirty
- laundry agenda (for the Nth time)on a technical news group.
-
- >Does anyone else see the irony?... Jeff NH6IL
-
- Yup, someone bad-mouthing a bad-mouther for bad-mouthing a bad-mouther
- seems ironic to me and most of my Internet friends. Again, I'm truly
- sorry if I offended an innocent party.
-
- 73, Cecil, KG7BK
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:03:39 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!hookup!paladin.american.edu!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!olesun!gcouger@ames.arpa
- Subject: repeater list
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The ARRL is making empty threats. The data in the repeapter directory is
- no more propiratary than the information in the phone book. In fact Wayne
- Green was putting out a directory before the ARRL and they stole it from
- him according to Wayne. It's a shame that the ARRL (I am a member) can
- think just because they have fuzzy balls they can threaten person with no
- means of hiring council. Fortunatly there is an answere in the American
- Civil Liberties Union. Give them a ring or if you don't want too I will
- and get their oppinion. The ACLU scares the shit of anybody they bring
- their guns to bare on.
- Gordon AB5Dg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 94 02:27:31 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!jtriolo@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Repeaters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >- Can repeaters in fact be used to place local telephone calls? If so,
- > is there a charge for this service? Is it limited?
-
- Yes. Some repeaters have autopatch capability. Most of those are
- club-sponsored repeaters which require you to support the club for autopatch
- access. Of course, business calls are prohibited, and you must keep in mind
- that everyone is listening to your call! The club I'm with here in Richmond
- limits your call to 3 minutes, and aside from club dues, local calls are no
- extra charge. For those of us who are a long-distance call between the
- repeater and our homes, they cover $1.00 of the long-distance charges. Check
- with some of your local radio clubs to find out what their policies are.
-
- >- What are the legal restrictions on amateur radio traffic? Are data
- > connections allowed?
-
- Data conections are allowed. It's called packet radio. Some packet links are
- even connected to the Internet. Listen around 145.000 to 145.100MHz. You may
- hear an occasional packet burst down there.
-
- >- What baud rate could I reliably connect at through a radio link?
- >
-
- On the 2m band, most links are 1200 baud, which is sufficient for local
- communication. Many sites that forward large amounts of traffic are
- experimenting with 9600 baud connections.
-
- Hope this helps!
-
- 73 de Jason, KD4ACG
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Jason D. Triolo -- Colonial Heights, VA | ----------------------
- Amateur Radio: KD4ACG | This space for rent.
- Internet : JTRIOLO@delphi.com | Call today!
- Fidonet : 1:264/219.1 | ----------------------
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 04:14:06 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wy1z@ames.arpa
- Subject: Satellite progs on World
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have now placed some satellite tracking programs on World:
-
- - stsplus.zip
-
- - stsorbit.zip
-
- - traksat {trak300a.zip & trak300b.zip} (latest version of traksat)
-
-
- They are available via anonymous FTP via
-
- ftp ftp.std.com:/pub/hamradio/pc/satellite
-
-
- If you have any problems, questions, or comments, please e-mail them to me.
-
- I tried very hard to search for stsplus through many archie searches, and
- only found one site which carried it. I hope that by making it available
- on World it will be easier to obtain.
-
- 73,
- Scott, WY1Z
-
- ===============================================================================
- | Scott Ehrlich Internet: wy1z@neu.edu BITNET: wy1z@NUHUB |
- | Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@k1ugm.ma.usa.na |
- |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on |
- | the World - ftp.std.com pub/hamradio |
- ===============================================================================
-
- --
- ===============================================================================
- | Scott Ehrlich Internet: wy1z@neu.edu BITNET: wy1z@NUHUB |
- | Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@k1ugm.ma.usa.na |
- |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on |
- | the World - ftp.std.com pub/hamradio |
- ===============================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 12:25:12 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!blackbird.afit.af.mil!sd2!johnsotc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Satellite Tracking Programs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <steve.761771155@netsys.com>, steve@NETSYS.COM (Steve Eigsti) writes:
- |> david@stat.com (David Dodell) writes:
- |>
- |> >I am interested in obtaining a good satellite tracking program for
- |> >tracking some of the amateur birds. Recommendations on shareware /
- |> >commercial packages would be appreciated.
- |>
- |> >David wb7tpy
- |>
- |> >---
- |> >Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- |> >Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- |> >Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
- |>
- |> Try Traksat, ftp to oak.oakland.edu it is in the msdos/satelite directory
- |>
- |> Steve K5SE
- |>
-
-
- You may also want to try the newly-uploaded PC-Track version 3.0, in the
- same location.
-
- Tom Johnson
- 71371.1257@compuserve.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 13:25:28 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!blackbird.afit.af.mil!sd2!johnsotc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Satellite Tracking Programs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <steve.761771155@netsys.com>, steve@NETSYS.COM (Steve Eigsti) writes:
- |> david@stat.com (David Dodell) writes:
- |>
- |> >I am interested in obtaining a good satellite tracking program for
- |> >tracking some of the amateur birds. Recommendations on shareware /
- |> >commercial packages would be appreciated.
- |>
- |> >David wb7tpy
- |>
- |> >---
- |> >Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- |> >Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- |> >Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
- |>
- |> Try Traksat, ftp to oak.oakland.edu it is in the msdos/satelite directory
- |>
- |> Steve K5SE
- |>
-
-
- You also may want to try PC-Track Version 3.0, newly uploaded to the
- same site, and also to garbo.uwasa.fi in pc/ham.
-
- Tom Johnson
- 71371.1257@compuserve.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 94 02:32:45 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!simtel.coast.net!msdos-ann-request@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: selcal13.zip - Hams: Maritime SITOR selcall translator v1.3
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have uploaded to the SimTel Software Repository (available by anonymous
- ftp from the primary mirror site OAK.Oakland.Edu and its mirrors):
-
- pub/msdos/hamradio/
- selcal13.zip Hams: Maritime SITOR selcall translator v1.3
-
- SELCALL is a translation program to translate selective calling signals
- of the maritime mobile service (MMS) CCIR 476-3 SITOR radio teletype
- service between their numeric values and printable 4-letter-represen-
- tations. The ZIP-file contains an EXE, a TPU and a DOC file.
-
- Changes: Program now knows about coast stations, enhanced documentation.
-
- Uploaded by the author. selcal13.zip has replaced selcal12.zip.
-
- 73,
-
- Ralf
- - -
- Ralf Kloth
- dl4ta@db0lx (packet radio bbs)
- wtpz2234@servus.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 1994 17:51:50 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!sunfish.hi.com!brainiac.hi.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CLC6Dp.Hz6@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <761496652snx@skyld.grendel.com>, <1994Feb21.131706.14375@tellab5.tellabs.com>
- Subject : Re: HAMBLASTER INCORRECT STATEMENTS
-
- In article <1994Feb21.131706.14375@tellab5.tellabs.com>, jwa@tellabs.com
- (John W. Albert) wrote:
- > How can it be an ad?
- > The Hamblaster isn't being sold, even on the "black market"!
-
- Presumably when the Hamblaster is available for sale, you will reimburse
- internet sites for the cost of transmitting your Hamblaster
- advertisements^H^H^H^Hmessages?
-
- Steve Byan internet: steve@hicomb.hi.com
- Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
- 1601 Trapelo Road phone: (617) 890-0444
- Waltham, MA 02154 FAX: (617) 890-4998
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Feb 1994 16:02:45 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CLGG3G.EMB@news.direct.net>, <2k4hh4$4q2@bigfoot.wustl.edu>, <CLL9L8.5AM@news.direct.net>
- Subject : Re: Jeff Gold
-
- USENET Fool Lame Excuse Number Three: "it wasn't meant seriously. I posted it
- just to see what kind of a reaction I would get."
-
- Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
- - Brian
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #191
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